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Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
#21
RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
As I understand it there are billions of people who claim to be Christians. As a 2.5nd Stage Lensman I find their claims odd.
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RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
(November 13, 2023 at 9:43 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(November 13, 2023 at 8:50 am)brewer Wrote: Based on that, apparently she's just a humanist looking for some extra power and control. Or am I missing something?
Power? Control? Not at all from what i see.

Considering her background (as far as i know about it) she is still confused, still looking for answers, purpose, etc. She isnt looking for whats true but for what (she believes!) makes her life better, and that of others.Truth value of what she is promoting seems to be of absolutely lesser importance to her it seems.
I am really curious when she is confronted with and has to defend the anti-humanist, discriminatory and misogynist part of the christian belief. Ill bet a paycheck she is gonna answer by cafeteria christianism. Probably she also will find herself defending the position that she actually still does not believe a god exits (nothing in her article gave a hint to a newly found god belief!), while promoting the christian religion which is founded on such a god belief. Either way, she will have to bend over backwards.

I get that she is looking for her own and her fellow humans betterment, but doing that by ignoring that truth matters.....thats plain stupid. Sorry, but even an idiot like me knows better.

Possibly, but I still think that she's flip flopping for the backing of the christian believers and their position of hating Islam. Don't have the power or control to change from within then switch teams, Islam-Atheist-Christian.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#23
RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
It probably helps to remember that the largest christian demo here is cultural or nominal. Christian only in name. So, if Hirsi is a nominal christian, a person who believes in cultural or political christianism..but not necessarily christ or the miracles or the magic book or whatever - then that would make her completely unremarkable as a christian. It's also pretty common for people who leave their religions in disgust to flirt with atheism for awhile before finding some other similar religion they believe lacks all the nasty shit of the one they left.

She may be in the latter set, but all she wrote about was the first.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
I usually couldn't care less, if it is reported that 'famous atheist X' is now a theist.

The only way I'd take notice, is if they were able to back up their theism with demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, and valid and sound logic.

The fact that 'famous atheist X' has fallen for the same flawed reasoning that billions of other people have fallen for, is hardly surprising.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#25
RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
Someone I don't know and don't give a shit about claims now to be something I don't give a shit about.

Guess my opinion.
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#26
RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
As a headline from the absurd it's great.

East african islamist becomes american christian nationalist after a brief stint of doubt about the existence of god.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ayaan Hirsi Ali now claims to be Christian.
(November 17, 2023 at 5:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As a headline from the absurd it's great.

East african islamist becomes american christian nationalist after a brief stint of doubt about the existence of god.

"I"m desperate, but I should be able to make money from atheists by claiming to be one of them!"

"But I can make even more money from Christians by claiming to be an ex-atheist!!"

*Cha-ching!*
Dying to live, living to die.
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