"Twelve" in the Quran.

[Mystic]

Shiite 12ver creed has been proven to be the one Quran calls to, and what is proven to Atheists, is there is something non-natural that keeps the hearts away from the household of Revelation.

[Minimalist]

is there is something non-natural that keeps the hearts away from the household of Revelation.

It's called "reason," dummy.

Go Blow Allah Out Your Ass!

[no one]

LadyForCamus:
This is spamming.

Gawdzilla Sama:
It's preaching.

Minimalst:
It's bullshit.


Nonsense, bullshit doesn't smell so bad.

[WinterHold]

and will reappear as the promised Mahdi.

Is he racing jesus to get back?

Seems like a slug racing a glacier!

Just for the record:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure

Usually; people will spawn thinking they are that legendary figure. Shiite consider him a core belief, essential also, while Sunnies hold him at very lower levels which are "also important".

Ironically, his advent is always bloody. There is always a desperate person who resorts to the stories of Al-Mehdi, claim to be him, and lead hundreds of good people to their deaths; believing that they are "fighting under a super figure".

Of course it always ends with a longsword to the jaw, torture at a shitty Arabic prison or a bullet.
Iran's leader now is a "temporary" until al-mahdi comes..without the system Iran presented after the Khumaini revolt; Shiite political position will be over, and the whole Shiite faith will be over. No wonder they force people into their cult with guns at Syria and Iraq.

[Mystic]

is there is something non-natural that keeps the hearts away from the household of Revelation.

It's called "reason," dummy.

Go Blow Allah Out Your Ass!

What is the reason Muslims who believe in the Quran don't acknowledge the family of Mohammad who they bless in Salah and don't recognize the themes pertaining to the family of the reminder which most of the Quran is about.

It certainly is not reason or logic, rather, Muslims are kept away from them by something else.  And it's not natural opposition or bias because it is so clear, and they don't perceive because of the dark magic and locks and knots blown upon.

Such is the nature of the great dark enemy we face and his power that we must overcome by God's help, power, rope, and light.

[Minimalist]

My experience with muslims is that "reason" is never employed.  You just listen to whichever towel-headed fuck screams loudest.

Xhristards have the same problem without the towel.

I call it "stupidity."

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

King Arthur had 12 chief knights and fought 12 battles.  Thorin Oakenshield had 12 dwarvish companions.  Hercules had 12 Labours.  Between them Cuchulain and Fergus Mac Roich had 12 geasa. Israel had 12 tribes.  Jesus had 12 Apostles.  The Etruscan League had 12 cities.  Ancient Greece had 12 Olympians. Odin had 12 sons.  The Aeneid consists of 12 books.

*big wet fart sound effect*

Boru

[Mystic]

My experience with muslims is that "reason" is never employed.  You just listen to whichever towel-headed fuck screams loudest.

Xhristards have the same problem without the towel.

I call it "stupidity."

You are right, but this despite Quran showing a better path, emphasizing a better path, a path that relied on reflections of proofs focusing on the guidance of Quran through the family of the reminder.

[Brian37]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAjkH74...e=youtu.be

Briefly I go through the use of the word "twelve" in the Quran.

The superstition of numbers isn't a patent owned solely by Islam.. "Numerology" was rampant in all of antiquity worldwide. 

Even today, if you go to Japan, there are many skyscrapers in Tokyo that do not have, a 3rd or 4th floor, I forget which one now. But back in 2000 I noticed this missing floor in the elevator  and mentioned that to my wife at the time. She told me it was a symbol of bad luck.

[brewer]

Koran? No Koran?