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How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
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RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
Good one, S/N.
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#22
RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
(July 16, 2010 at 7:56 am)Godhead Wrote: Zen Badger -

I think the lie that is being perpetrated is the lie about why they went to war. Anybody who seriously wishes to pursue a religion wouldn't do so on the basis of what GBW says. To believe the lie that god told him to do it would require one to already believe in god (thus GWB's lie isn't perpetrating anything), but it would also require one to have a warped idea of god, which most religious people don't have. An exchange between a liar and a few gullible people who already agree with the war doesn't perpetrate the religion being used as a tool of the lie.

Plenty of religious idiots claim to have a personel relationship with their god boy, why shoud GWB be any different.
And "one to have a warped idea of god, which most religious people don't have"

Oh really?

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#23
RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
Zen Badger -

Anyone who believes what GWB said would already believe not only in god, but, more importantly, in the war. The lie is told in order to appear to justify the war. No one becomes converted by the lie.
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RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
Who said anything about anyone being converted?Huh
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#25
RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
i would call the police and the paramedics to internate him in a psycho hospital(don't remember the english name), if i couldn't i would bust his kneecaps, if it was a capital punishment i would get the hell away from that country
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#26
RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
(July 15, 2010 at 9:29 pm)superstarr Wrote: I'll give an example. What if a person prayed to God because he/she wanted to ask what he/she should do or should be doing or whatever. And then he "orders" him/her to kill his/her family members, and he/she actually does do it. Now, how would you feel if that were you doing such a thing? (Answer not from the examples below) And as the general public, how would you feel about it if it's broadcasted in the news or in a way where you heard about it? Would you say,

A. "Oh, a direct order from God, that guy/girl must be lucky to have been ordered by the Heavenly Father."
B. "Hmm, how sad, but God knows what's best so I guess it's OK."
C. "What a freak! What kind of a God was he/she listening to? His faith is weak!"
D. "He/she needs to get that Schizophrenia treated."
E. "He/she needs to be in a mental hospital"
F. "*blank stare*"
G. (Other answer)

Not just an incident like that, but an incident involving the loss of a life, how would you respond?


EDIT: I couldn't even understand what I myself was asking, so I re-worded it a bit.

Why is there not an option, 'Join him in a killing spree'? Lots of people would be up for that, I'm sure... or is that just me?
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RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
(July 17, 2010 at 8:32 am)Godhead Wrote: Zen Badger -

Anyone who believes what GWB said would already believe not only in god, but, more importantly, in the war. The lie is told in order to appear to justify the war. No one becomes converted by the lie.


G-H I don't think you completely grasp how utterly fucked-up some of your fellow believers are.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100714/ap_o...nate_angle


Quote:LOS ANGELES – Republican Sharron Angle says her campaign to unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada is "a calling" from God and that her faith is helping her endure a fiercely competitive race in which Democrats have depicted her as a conservative extremist.


Oddly, here is a conservative extremist who does not want to be depicted as such!
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RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
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(July 17, 2010 at 11:05 am)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: Why is there not an option, 'Join him in a killing spree'? Lots of people would be up for that, I'm sure... or is that just me?

I do have a G option where you can fill it in with whatever you want. Wink
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#29
RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
Minimalist -

Exactly. There are people who believe that god goes around telling people to start wars. And there are people who believe that the war is justified. What GWB was doing was appealing to those who fall into both categories. Of course, by saying "god told me to start this war", he's not going to persuade people who don't believe that god tells people to start wars (that the war is justified), and he's not going to persuade those who don't think that the war is justified, that it is. His statement that god told him to start the war is useless. It doesn't persuade anyone of anything, neither of god's existence, let alone god's telling him to do it, nor that the war is justified. I don't know why he said it. I don't think god told him to do it, I think he just said it to sound justified. He could have just as easily used some other excuse, all you need is enough people to believe whatever the excuse is based on. Religion is often used to justify wars. But within a religion, there are 2 very distinct "paths". One is where everything in the religion's scripture is taken literally (and let's not forget that meanings and contexts can be read into scripture, even if the writer of the scripture never intended it to be such), and the other is where it isn't all taken literally. To confuse one with the other is to miss the point. This is why GWB, with such a statement, will only receive the support of those who either believe that the scripture and the religion justifies the war (a tiny minority), or those who care not about any of that but who simply agree with the war on any number of other grounds (ie they'll just go along with what he said about god commanding him even if they don't really believe it...you know what some people (americans) are like).
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RE: How would you respond to a person killing someone else because God told him to?
Quote:There are people who believe that god goes around telling people to start wars.


But who are you to say they are wrong? You define your 'god' one-way and they define their 'god' another way. Big deal. Disagreements over what the invisible man in the sky wants have been a major cause of problems here on earth and NO ONE ( not even you ) can prove his/her case to be correct.

"God" is a highly malleable concept. People can pound it into whatever shape they want because it is all made-up shit.

We need fewer people walking around pretending to be representing fucking 'god.'
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