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Every person is religious
RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 2:50 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(September 18, 2023 at 2:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Yes, a God who created consequences for corruption, warned humanity from corruption and immorality; thus made drowning from decaying dams due to corruption and delays in fixing them a possibility in our world:

Why do you blame the corruption and failed infrastructures on God, and not on the Libyan government?


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/16/world...nings.html

God wasn't punishing them for corruption. If He cared so much about corruption, there would never be a serial killer who would be allowed to do what they do.

The concept in Islam is that just like God cares about his creatures not corrupting, he also cares about "creatures with a brain" to have total freedom in choosing what they do.

Literally, it is one of the concepts of Islam:


Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
https://quran.com/17?startingVerse=13

(13) We have bound every human’s destiny to their neck.1 And on the Day of Judgment We will bring forth to each ˹person˺ a record which they will find laid open.

(14) ˹And it will be said,˺ “Read your record. You ˹alone˺ are sufficient this Day to take account of yourself.”

So this is what God does exactly: he creates; he created life, death, sin, cruelty, mercy, love, hate, light, darkness, heat and cold.

He also created freedom, and gave it to humans:

Quote:Sura 41, The Quran:
https://quran.com/41?startingVerse=40

(39) Indeed, those who abuse Our revelations1 are not hidden from Us. Who is better: the one who will be cast into the Fire or the one who will be secure on Judgment Day? Do whatever you want. He is certainly All-Seeing of what you do.

But he warned humans from evil deeds -even though he created them-, he ordered humans not to do evil, not to do corruption, but like the government in Libya, or the serial killer, criminals exist as a test for the good:

Quote:Sura 67, The Quran:
https://quran.com/67?startingVerse=2

(2) ˹He is the One˺ Who created death and life in order to test which of you is best in deeds. And He is the Almighty, All-Forgiving. 
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RE: Every person is religious
Why the fuck did I look in here again? Sudden onset blain dramage, that has got to be it.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 3:20 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(September 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)WinterHold Wrote: As long as you anthropomorphize God, you'll never respect him.

Why should we respect it? It's done nothing to earn that respect.

The fingers you type this message with.
He made that.
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 3:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Just what this forum needs - Winter and Ahri going head to head.

FFS

To be honest AWTY, the universe is fishy, it has God's name written on every creation. Like a trademark.
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RE: Every person is religious
Going full throttle with that trolling Winter?

Thoughts and prayers lil guy
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 10:53 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 18, 2023 at 3:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Just what this forum needs - Winter and Ahri going head to head.

FFS

To be honest AWTY, the universe is fishy, it has God's name written on every creation. Like a trademark.

Like this?

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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 10:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: God wasn't punishing them for corruption. If He cared so much about corruption, there would never be a serial killer who would be allowed to do what they do.

The concept in Islam is that just like God cares about his creatures not corrupting, he also cares about "creatures with a brain" to have total freedom in choosing what they do.

Literally, it is one of the concepts of Islam:



So this is what God does exactly: he creates; he created life, death, sin, cruelty, mercy, love, hate, light, darkness, heat and cold.

He also created freedom, and gave it to humans:


But he warned humans from evil deeds -even though he created them-, he ordered humans not to do evil, not to do corruption, but like the government in Libya, or the serial killer, criminals exist as a test for the good:

Your god didn’t give me the freedom to not be born.

Why doesn’t god give us the freedom to not be born into a world that it created that has death,sin, cruelty,mercy…..?

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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 10:46 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 18, 2023 at 3:20 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Why should we respect it? It's done nothing to earn that respect.

The fingers you type this message with.
He made that.

It also kills babies with cancer it created

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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 10:46 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 18, 2023 at 3:20 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Why should we respect it? It's done nothing to earn that respect.

The fingers you type this message with.
He made that.

He also must have made this finger, then.

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Have a spin.

Boru
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 18, 2023 at 10:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The concept in Islam is that just like God cares about his creatures not corrupting, he also cares about "creatures with a brain" to have total freedom in choosing what they do.

Literally, it is one of the concepts of Islam:


But he warned humans from evil deeds -even though he created them-, he ordered humans not to do evil, not to do corruption, but like the government in Libya, or the serial killer, criminals exist as a test for the good:

Consider what you're saying here.  That god does what we will not allow as a test.  We don't let serial killers kill.  We try to catch them.  To stop them.  We topple corrupt governments.  Consider the absurdity and the idiocy of the "I was only testing them" defense from a serial killer or a corrupt politician, and then realize that you are accusing god of this.
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