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Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I write software for a small office that has about 15 people. Today, I noticed that one of the managing partners had placed bible verses as "wall art" in the common waiting area.
I ignored it when I saw a bible on his bookshelf in his office.
I ignored it when I saw Jesus pictures in his office.
I ignored it when I saw his screensaver had been changed to rotate religious motivational pictures.
I ignored it when both he and his wife added Biblical quotes to their email signatures.
I believe they have crossed the line by putting two large "wall art" bible quotes in the common waiting area.
The secretary and I are the only two atheists in the office and it is probably worse for her since these things are in her workspace all day, but I would like to know if there are any good ideas to get them taken down.
I don't want to start a legal battle (5 of the top guys here are excellent lawyers -- and they're all deeply religious), I can't afford to lose my job and I'm afraid I will just by telling these religious attorneys that I'm an atheist and I'm uncomfortable with the biblical stuff everywhere. Anonymous letter maybe? I doubt that would do anything -- they would ask the person to come forward and when I did, I'd surely be fired for some nit-picky thing. Can anyone help me think this through? Any success stories?
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I haven't came across that situation, but in my view you should ignore it, it really isn't any pain. In your situation I would just laugh everytime I took a look at those things lol 
You could make a case to your employer that if you have a client of another religion those things could be offending or causing a bad look on the company, but really, let the nutters have their fun.
PS: you could buy an FSM doll to your desk, or a FSM pen holder, something like that 
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Ignoring is the best option.
Next is checking if there are any cameras. If not, a few adjustments to the Bible Verses are in order.
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Recruit a fellow atheist to pose as a "customer" to come into the waiting area and announce loudly that he/she is taking his/her business elsewhere because your company is run by a bunch of superstitious twits.
These fuckers may profess to love 'god' but money is still first and foremost.
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I would have "The God Delusion", "God is Not Great", "Godless" and other such books conspicuously on my desk. I would also put up atheist themed posters, quotes and cartoons in my work space. That should get the point across.
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm
What people suggested it's probably the best solution if they are passive, it best if you are only passive
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 8:27 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2011 at 8:32 pm by Rev. Rye.)
(January 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm)ssorj Wrote: I write software for a small office that has about 15 people. Today, I noticed that one of the managing partners had placed bible verses as "wall art" in the common waiting area.
I ignored it when I saw a bible on his bookshelf in his office.
I ignored it when I saw Jesus pictures in his office.
I ignored it when I saw his screensaver had been changed to rotate religious motivational pictures.
I ignored it when both he and his wife added Biblical quotes to their email signatures.
I believe they have crossed the line by putting two large "wall art" bible quotes in the common waiting area.
The secretary and I are the only two atheists in the office and it is probably worse for her since these things are in her workspace all day, but I would like to know if there are any good ideas to get them taken down.
I don't want to start a legal battle (5 of the top guys here are excellent lawyers -- and they're all deeply religious), I can't afford to lose my job and I'm afraid I will just by telling these religious attorneys that I'm an atheist and I'm uncomfortable with the biblical stuff everywhere. Anonymous letter maybe? I doubt that would do anything -- they would ask the person to come forward and when I did, I'd surely be fired for some nit-picky thing. Can anyone help me think this through? Any success stories? First, I would suggest that you bring this up with that guy and tell them kindly how you feel about it. Maybe if he doesn't see the problem, I suggest Thor's method of retaliation by putting books about atheism on the bookshelf, pictures of atheistic thinkers on the walls, and quotes from them in the common areas and your emails (maybe "threatening" to do so to his face might change his mind). Or better yet, if there's anybody who is into a non-Christian religion (maybe a Muslim or Jew, possibly a Buddhist if you can get him to take sides in a rivalry like this), have him do the same thing. What experience I have tells me that if that guy has two brain cells to rub together, he will realise that some people are just not going to be receptive to preaching. In any case, it's best if you keep passive, and if you do confront him, try to be as non-confrontational as possible.
By the way, what are the verses he wants to post?
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 18, 2011 at 9:06 pm
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It sounds as though he is in some sort of crisis, because these sorts of people often become more religious during times of hardships (they love to pray for things all positive).
I agree with the above; tell the guy to please remove his religion from the common area, for it is not appropriate. If he insists on his behavior being perfectly legitimate, then do the same. Keep some Nietzsche, Hitchens, and Dawkins lying around.....he ought to love that!
I encourage you to disregard fears of "lawyers", no matter how religious they are. You have rights, and common areas are not theist hubs.
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 19, 2011 at 12:13 am
(January 18, 2011 at 3:03 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Ignoring is the best option.
Next is checking if there are any cameras. If not, a few adjustments to the Bible Verses are in order.
Private company?
You probably have two realistic choices;ignore it or leave.
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RE: Any ideas on how to get "wall art" bible verses taken down in a small office?
January 19, 2011 at 6:53 am
(January 19, 2011 at 12:13 am)padraic Wrote: Private company?
You probably have two realistic choices;ignore it or leave.
Exactly what I was thinking.
If it is a private company, and they are the owners (are they?), they can display whatever they want in their company. Just because something is offensive to you is not sufficient to demand these verses to be taken down.
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