Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.

[madog]

 

It's also tricking someone into thinking something there is agency behind something when there is no reason to think that there is. Or screwing around with flawed probability statements.

Yeah, doesn't it seem weird when you are on the outside looking in at generally intelligent people trying to make nonsense sound sensible?

[Edwardo Piet]

Magic is like "Do what ya want. Make your own rules and enjoy!" It haz a silly

[The Valkyrie]

Any deity that would choose the likes of Ken Ham, Ray Comfort, and the Republican Presidential candidates as spokes people, or does nothing to them when they claim to be speaking on its behalf, is certainly not worth worshipping.

[robvalue]

 

It's also tricking someone into thinking something there is agency behind something when there is no reason to think that there is. Or screwing around with flawed probability statements.

Yeah, doesn't it seem weird when you are on the outside looking in at generally intelligent people trying to make nonsense sound sensible?

Yeah... it is frustrating.

It's like I can hear a switch flipping. If we move from another subject to religion, their whole outlook on logic, evidence and reason completely changes. It's like talking to a different person.

It's not the only subject that causes such a change in people, but it's a very common one. I guess it's the mind going into super defensive mode.

[Edwardo Piet]

For worshipping someone, one requirement for me would be their actual existence.

[The Valkyrie]

For worshipping someone, one requirement for me would be their actual existence.

I exist.

Worship me, peasant!

[Edwardo Piet]

Hehe.

[GUBU]

For worshipping someone, one requirement for me would be their actual existence.

I exist.

Worship me, peasant!

Too late. He belongs to Losty with years.

[Cyberman]

I exist.

Worship me, peasant!

Do you have some sort of altar at which I could kneel and pour out my devotions?

[lisah]

What are your most convincing reasons for not believing in god? I don't mean convincing to other people (necessarily) but convincing to yourself... what reasons stop you going back (if you are an ex-theist) even if you wanted to?

I'm an ex-Christian so I have baggage and I admit that very occasionally I am tempted back but one of the reasons that prevents me is simply the fact of contradictions in the Bible: if there are contradictions it can't be infallible, and if it's not infallible but only 'inspired' then how can you trust any of it (or know what to trust)? Ultimately it is that reason that stops me in my tracks if I'm ever tempted to read the Bible again... I literally cannot get past the first few pages of Genesis without thinking 'this is silly' even if I actually want to go back to Christianity.

I'd love to hear what other core reasons people have for not believing... reasons that act like mental blocks to ever returning. Ashamedly I do have doubts from time to time and so am not 100% certain like Rob, but I'd like to be, and I think having a few more core reasons (rather than superficial/semantic reasons) would help 

I began looking at the Bible as stories dealing with the nature of mankind, strengths and weaknesses that exist in our psyche and societies. The Bible is not infallible, but may be considered inspired if something strikes you as true personally (as in having an insight into oneself, maybe). I suppose I was attempting to deconstruct in order to be able to salvage certain ideas that I felt had value. Probably to avoid feeling that all the time and energy spent in study was not wasted time.

My "reasons" for not going back may not be totally reasonable, as I realize them as being founded upon self-protection from the power religion can give unscrupulous people and certain weaknesses that I may have.

I do know good people who are religious though. I just don't see myself going back to that, and I rarely discuss anything religious with anyone these days.

(Not a helpful post, maybe? But . . .)