Homosexuality and demons!

[Rhizomorph13]

Gross,

I can't even make a funny about that one Craveman. (Russian Accent)Is simply a need to toss offenders in Gulag!

Rhizo

[chatpilot]

The concept that certain human behaviors, such as homosexuality, adultery, alcoholism, are the products of specific demons meant to cause these behaviors, is sadly, not an uncommon belief.

Recently there wasa homosexual exorcism in Connecticut:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sh...Rc1CXmzpbI

Here you go Eilonnwy the accompanying video to that report you posted. It's messed up but it's funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFYXkJ6wF4c

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

He was very fundamental and attributed everything to demons sickness, disease, homosexuality.

fascinating. THAT is the kind of belief behind the present nastiness in Nigeria (?) with torturing and killing children accused of being witches.


--a person on another forum accused the Nigerians of being "bronze age savages'. I wonder what that makes your ex friend and his congregation,as well as the Spanish numbskulls? Not sure I'd say "bronze age savages".(people of the bronze age,such as the Egyptians and Greeks,were actually quite civilised)

I think "mono-brow,knuckle dragging Neanderthals" is more accurate.


The guy you describe sounds dangerous.I hope someone kills him, and soon.

[chatpilot]

padraic I have not been in touch with him for years but I have heard rumors that he eventually left the church. Spanish Pentecostal churches tend to be very fundamental and people like my ex ministry partner are not uncommon. Faith healing and exorcisms were everyday occurrences in the churches I frequented and congregations I used to preach to. They tend to be what I termed miracle mongers.

There have been studies done on faith healing and in these studies the practice has been affectionately labeled by the scientifically minded "faith killing". I personally knew a man in my home church who died of a hernia! He refused to get an operation because he was afraid to go under the knife. All the while his hernia continued to grow and he posited all of his faith in God and expected a miraculous recovery that never came. It seems like Oregon has a huge problem with the faith healing trend.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/clackamascoun...ous_s.html

[ecolox]

It is my opinion that everyone is entitled to live their lives as they please as long as they don't pose a threat to their peers in society.

Does this mean e.g. illegal drugs, consensual dueling, bestiality, and necrophilia should be legalized and socially accepted (people shouldn't look down on others who are just living their lives in a non-threatening way)? YES!

I read in the news about some guy having sex with a dead deer in the woods and he was arrested! The nerve...

Maybe the world will catch up to your opinion one day (fingers crossed).

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Maybe the world will catch up to your opinion one day (fingers crossed).

--And perhaps the world will outgrow judgmental twats who insist on imposing their anal retentive Calvinist morality on others.Fingers crossed.

Personally,I couldn't care less if person likes to have sexual congress with ducks,as long as it's consensual and I don't have watch.


I have moral issues with behaviour which entails imposing one's {and values] on other adults.


Illegal drugs? There shouldn't be any;and it's not that long ago that was the case. The "drug problem" is a health issue,not a legal or moral one.

[chatpilot]

ecolox just like a Christian, to take a sensible statement and turn it upside down to make stupid asinine comparisons to things I was not referring to at all. But come to think of it the same can be said for your beliefs and your god. So genocide, incest, slavery, witch hunts, inquisitions, torture, and murder in the name of your god is okay as long as the bible says it and it's for the greater good of the church? And that is just a short list, if I put my mind to it I can write book about all the wonderful atrocities your god has committed against humanity in your fictional bible. Not to mention those committed by his followers in the O.T. all the way up to modern times. But then again it's impossible for your god to have committed those atrocities since he does not exist.

[ecolox]

Maybe the world will catch up to your opinion one day (fingers crossed).

--And perhaps the world will outgrow judgmental twats who insist on imposing their anal retentive Calvinist morality on others.Fingers crossed.

That was exactly my point. Thanks for the new angle (fingers crossed).

Personally,I couldn't care less if person likes to have sexual congress with ducks,as long as it's consensual and I don't have watch.

Doing it in public and on TV doesn't mean you have to watch, so no problems there.

I have moral issues with behaviour which entails imposing one's {and values] on other adults.

Me too. So long society!

Illegal drugs? There shouldn't be any;and it's not that long ago that was the case. The "drug problem" is a health issue,not a legal or moral one.

So true.

---

ecolox just like a Christian

Well I hope so, after all, I call myself a Christian.

to take a sensible statement and turn it upside down to make stupid asinine comparisons to things I was not referring to at all.

This shows nothing. You referred to all manner of things in your sweeping statement, on purpose or not.

But come to think of it the same can be said for your beliefs and your god. So genocide, incest, slavery, witch hunts, inquisitions, torture, and murder in the name of your god is okay as long as the bible says it and it's for the greater good of the church?

Your lead point is that both our belief systems fail? You go on to list bad stuff that self-proclaimed Christian's have done, but you didn't explain how those were justifiable in the context of the whole Bible. I don't know what you think you've accomplished.

And that is just a short list, if I put my mind to it I can write book about all the wonderful atrocities your god has committed against humanity in your fictional bible.

I bet, keep it up brother. I find it humorous that an atheist (who usually claim to simply "lack belief") would find that worthwhile.

Not to mention those committed by his followers in the O.T. all the way up to modern times.

I know that many self-proclaimed Christians have done bad things, but I don't know how you (or they) justify their bad actions in the context of the whole Bible.

But then again it's impossible for your god to have committed those atrocities since he does not exist.

Again, it's impossible for you to say that. This has been weak.

[chatpilot]

ecolox your bible condemns itself and the god it claims to be a revelation of. Your God according to your scripture is a tyrant and a murderer. But of course you can't possibly see anything wrong with that. It's incredible what people can believe after being brain washed by religion.