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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 7:30 pm
True for them does not extend as objective truth beyond them. Even if they think they're on the same page Frodo. You say you were an Atheist for 45 years? You accept information from a stranger sitting next to you on a pew? Christians can't even nail down how they interpret the divine word of God, yet, we are to think that when it comes to their internal opinions, they are all 100% true in an objective sense? Ahem...Really? Come on Frodo.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 7:39 pm
(August 9, 2013 at 7:25 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (August 9, 2013 at 7:15 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: No claim about what a person says is true for them is strong enough to count as evidence for science.
But it's evidence that it's true for them 
This shifts us into misconception. Sure people can be fooled. And by themselves. Groupings must be worse because of obvious social pressures.
I'm talking abstract theoreticals here. Of course 100% of people don't believe in God. But objectively, Christians can and do verify each other's beliefs. We are implored to test ourselves and each other. Maybe every scientist is conspiring to mis feed us information. We trust a lot of things, and it's healthy to be skeptical.
And Muslims confirm each other, and Hindus confirm each other, and Zoroastrians...
So who's right? Hint: The answer is one or none.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 9:01 pm
My goodness...theists insisting that their fucking sky daddy is real.
Some things never change.
Or improve.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 9:27 pm
"No claim about what a person says is true for them is strong enough to count as evidence for science."
You said it, not me....
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 9:55 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2013 at 9:57 pm by The Reality Salesman01.)
Uh huh...oh. You are saying that if I walk into a psychiatrist and tell them I feel like I have downs, then that alone is enough to warrant the diagnosis. No catfish, that alone isn't enough.
...and again Catfish, it all depends on what you mean by illness.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 10:00 pm
I once walked into a psychiatrist's and told him I felt like a pair of curtains.
He gave me some very strong antipsychotics and a lot of counselling, and now I feel much better.
(Story may or may not represent reality.)
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
