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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 26, 2012 at 9:24 pm
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A couple of years ago, my precious Sam and i undertook a course of IVF treatment to give us a chance at the child I couldn't give her and which she had always wanted. As we followed the programme, we occasionally had people we knew saying that they would pray for us, for a successful outcome. Regrettably, the first cycle didn't take and so we were preparing for a second; our last shot before the funding ran out. We would have the same people telling us how sorry they were it didn't work out and that they would pray for us, though for what they never said. Shortly after starting the second round, as many of you know, my sweet princess Sam was taken from me at the age of 31.
Nobody has yet offered to pray for me. They must sense that I will kill them.
P.S. Hope I haven't derailed the thread...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 27, 2012 at 11:49 am
(April 26, 2012 at 9:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote: A couple of years ago, my precious Sam and i undertook a course of IVF treatment to give us a chance at the child I couldn't give her and which she had always wanted. As we followed the programme, we occasionally had people we knew saying that they would pray for us, for a successful outcome. Regrettably, the first cycle didn't take and so we were preparing for a second; our last shot before the funding ran out. We would have the same people telling us how sorry they were it didn't work out and that they would pray for us, though for what they never said. Shortly after starting the second round, as many of you know, my sweet princess Sam was taken from me at the age of 31.
Nobody has yet offered to pray for me. They must sense that I will kill them.
P.S. Hope I haven't derailed the thread...
Holy fuck. Was it a result of the treatment, or something else?
Honestly after that if anyone said "I am so sorry, I'll pray for you" after all that I'd probably take a machete to their arm and ask between clenched, gritted teeth how they were going to clasp hands when they only had one hand left, and then I'd tell them to start praying to god to grow their arm back. Anyone who's ever heard my musing on how it seems miracles only seem to happen to non-amputees will get the joke, there...
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 27, 2012 at 3:10 pm
(April 26, 2012 at 9:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote: A couple of years ago, my precious Sam and i undertook a course of IVF treatment to give us a chance at the child I couldn't give her and which she had always wanted. As we followed the programme, we occasionally had people we knew saying that they would pray for us, for a successful outcome. Regrettably, the first cycle didn't take and so we were preparing for a second; our last shot before the funding ran out. We would have the same people telling us how sorry they were it didn't work out and that they would pray for us, though for what they never said. Shortly after starting the second round, as many of you know, my sweet princess Sam was taken from me at the age of 31.
Nobody has yet offered to pray for me. They must sense that I will kill them.
P.S. Hope I haven't derailed the thread...
I'm sorry for your loss, at such a young age and at a time when hope was so high in your lives. I can't imagine what you had to and are going through. I hope you are able to find peace in your life.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 27, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Thank you for the kind words. The actual cause of death was never established; one or two possibilities were raised but they are impossible to prove and frankly too horrible to contemplate. It went down on the certificate as "unexpected death due to epilepsy" despite there being absolutely no evidence to support that conclusion, simply because the coroner's inquest had to put something. The treatment may indirectly have been a contributory factor, nothing to do with the actual treatment itself. It's all rather involved and I'd need a whole new thread to cover it all.
None of this is the reason why I am an atheist, I identified as such long before this happened. So I'm not 'angry at god' or anything so silly. I was never taken in by that stuff before, and I'm certainly not falling for it now.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 27, 2012 at 5:58 pm
I like the shower. It's a good thinking room, with water. 
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 29, 2012 at 9:19 am
(April 27, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Thank you for the kind words. The actual cause of death was never established; one or two possibilities were raised but they are impossible to prove and frankly too horrible to contemplate. It went down on the certificate as "unexpected death due to epilepsy" despite there being absolutely no evidence to support that conclusion, simply because the coroner's inquest had to put something. The treatment may indirectly have been a contributory factor, nothing to do with the actual treatment itself. It's all rather involved and I'd need a whole new thread to cover it all.
None of this is the reason why I am an atheist, I identified as such long before this happened. So I'm not 'angry at god' or anything so silly. I was never taken in by that stuff before, and I'm certainly not falling for it now.
I actually am more surprised you are an atheist after something like that, really. After traumatic events such as that, religion starts to look really good. In a weakened state is where most people find themselves as they are converting. I think this makes you one of, like...three people I know of who did not let emotionally blistering events induce a conversion.
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 29, 2012 at 10:00 am
Mark me down as number four.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm
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(April 27, 2012 at 5:58 pm)SophiaGrace Wrote: I like the shower. It's a good thinking room, with water.
I hate showers. The water makes my snot run wildly, fogs my mind, and sneeze constantly as I resist a powerful nausea caused by the soap and warm water (due to this nausea I can't take a shower right after I wake up). I feel like I'm drowning when I wash my hair and face. My skin feels sticky under the water. And too cold or too hot showers are even worse.
The only good feelings that come in a shower are from a detachable shower head 
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 29, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Creed, have you considered freelance writing to keep you ticking over? I can recommend a few sites that I have made decent money from. Also, I used to run a resume, interview and career advancement blog, so if you want a one-to-one consultation I'd be happy to help. Keep your chin up, the god you asked for is here.
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RE: A revelation in the shower
April 29, 2012 at 2:41 pm
(April 29, 2012 at 10:00 am)Faith No More Wrote: Mark me down as number four.
Put me down as five.
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