(June 21, 2023 at 5:42 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:It is not actually, a women's sexual promiscuity solely determines whether or not she will have an abortion,a right that should not be given to her.It actually is as her right to sexual freedom is divorced from her right to reproductive freedom. She has the right to both.
Quote:That we should give mothers the option to kill their own children to avoid the responsibility of the product of their previous intercourse because they sought the pleasures of the flesh,That we should give women the option to decide to take responsibility and end their own pregnancy as a result of them engaging in their right to sexual freedom is based.
Quote: it was the same in the Ancient days as it is today, prostitutes would throw their babies in cisterns in infanticide because sex was their profession.It isn't the same as throwing babies into cisterns is not the same as removing an unwanted organism living inside their body where it has no business being.
Quote: Sowing according to the Flesh reaped death 2,000 years ago just as much as it reaps death today.
Nope
Quote: I ask you how often does a married couple, who sow according to the Spirit have abortions?I imagine more often than you think. But it doesn't matter if they do or don't it changes nothing.
Quote:You would rather allow one the ability to kill an innocent human being rather than take a shred, no an INKLING of responsibility for their own actions?The woman has the right to remove an unwanted organism from her body and whether it's innocent or not makes no difference to that fact. And abortion is taking responsibility for one's own actions.
Quote:What kind of world do you believe to be one free from Sin and Vice? One where a mother who should be known as a kind nurturing woman, should be turned into nothing more than a depraved whore who would take the life of her own child to get rid of the trace of her shamefulness?A woman is whatever and whoever they choose to be and there is nothing depraved or shameful about taking responsibility for one's own body and removing what they deem should not be there.
Quote:And don't you dare bring up the 'incidents of rape' we are not talking about themYou can ignore them if you want they are relevant to this subject. Your denial does not change that.
Quote: the Laws of Nature Ordained by God were set in order since before time began, those who are in the unfortunate way of planetary or interstellar phenomenon happened just to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Life is a chance you take on yourself to provide a future for those who will come after you, and if I was raising a child sir, I would want God to reflect myself, a loving Father, that way when I am gone my child may know my Spirit is always guiding him after I and God become united as all do when they perish.So pointless blather that avoids his responsibility
Quote:God forbid it should ever be deemed acceptable that a mother should take the life of her child. Yet this is what you advocate.It already is acceptable. A woman gets to decide if she stays pregnant or not and gets to decide if the fetus gets to live in her body or not.
Actually in a lot of States here in America there is no such right for a woman to have an abortion...
Also the unborn child is not 'her body' that she gets to decide to do with as she wishes, it comes with its own set of organs and is capable of recognizing their mother's voice, yet you would have an unborn child that is capable of recognizing his mother's voice be thrown to the wolves with the abortion that many places allow where it is legal to have an abortion even a day before the expected mother was due to deliver. So to me more about how this individual being who is capable of recognizing his mother's voice does not have the protected rights of their person and their liberty?