Is Ethernal Just A Guise For "Ifinately Far"?
April 1, 2015 at 5:07 am
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2015 at 5:12 am by ReptilianPeon.)
Religious apologists love Kalaam. People of any religion can use it and people of all religions do. It's amazing how the same premise can have so many different conclusions depending on who you ask. Heck, I could invent a deity now and it would fit Kalaam. The very same Kalaam used by William Lane-Craig is used by his bearded alter-ego, Hamza Tzortis.
Religionists will always claim that time cannot for infinitely far into the past but then they say their favourite deity infinite, which I think is strange. Personally, I don't know about you, but I don't see the problem with an infinite regress of universes. It's not like the sniper example I've heard, whereby the sniper is never issued the command to shoot, which I think is a non-sequitur. Regardless, how did their deity get to now if it's eternal?
But, putting Kalaam to one side for the moment, many religions have a concept of heaven and hell. And I wonder, do these concepts mean that time can do infinitely far into the future? Religionists talk about 'eternal life', something which I have always found confusing. For a start, it's 'carrot and stick motivation'. But, putting that aside, for anything to happen there has to be a change in states, right? Won't entropy increase in heaven? You can't have people frolicking in heaven without time, surely, or am I misconstruing? Ah, but it's supernatural I hear you say.
I don't know. I've always struggled with the idea of eternal life. Do we arrive at the age we died in? What about aging? I mean it wouldn't be fair on the old folk. Wouldn't everyone want to have the perfect body? And then wouldn't everyone be clones of each other. If somebody was circumcised (in particular dangerous FGM) and died as a result, would they arrived circumcised or not? So many questions.
Edit: Or maybe I'm just an idiot...
Religionists will always claim that time cannot for infinitely far into the past but then they say their favourite deity infinite, which I think is strange. Personally, I don't know about you, but I don't see the problem with an infinite regress of universes. It's not like the sniper example I've heard, whereby the sniper is never issued the command to shoot, which I think is a non-sequitur. Regardless, how did their deity get to now if it's eternal?
But, putting Kalaam to one side for the moment, many religions have a concept of heaven and hell. And I wonder, do these concepts mean that time can do infinitely far into the future? Religionists talk about 'eternal life', something which I have always found confusing. For a start, it's 'carrot and stick motivation'. But, putting that aside, for anything to happen there has to be a change in states, right? Won't entropy increase in heaven? You can't have people frolicking in heaven without time, surely, or am I misconstruing? Ah, but it's supernatural I hear you say.
I don't know. I've always struggled with the idea of eternal life. Do we arrive at the age we died in? What about aging? I mean it wouldn't be fair on the old folk. Wouldn't everyone want to have the perfect body? And then wouldn't everyone be clones of each other. If somebody was circumcised (in particular dangerous FGM) and died as a result, would they arrived circumcised or not? So many questions.
Edit: Or maybe I'm just an idiot...
