(March 19, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: The bitter truth is you gotta be a bit of an asshole for women to feel that you are genuine. I was the "nice guy" growing up and it just doesn't work, it was only once I used a little bit of "the neg" that I acheived some measure of success. Oh, and I learned to swing dance, yeah that probably is what brought the real success. I had a skill to attract women and was able to weave a bit of mystery and convince them I was worth having by showing that they couldn't just have me easily. Fucked up really. Maybe for you Balkan dancing could bring success? I had a dance partner once who was into Balkan dancing. Who knew there was a whole scene here in Portland centered around such a niche dance style?I am neither a nice guy, neither an asshole. I'm mostly very neutral towards women-not nice enough for them to use me, not asshole enough for them to like me.
Women only like a guy who has skills, but don't go out and buy a bo staff or nunchucks just yet.
I am a good dancer, meaning, in folklore, I know balkan dancing styles, not all, maybe, but I've hanged out with a few bosniak fellows back in my days to know some of their dances, including our own folklore from Ankara and Caucasia.
However, folklore is far from being attractive around these parts.
Only squares apply for folklore, and here...Well, the folklore was beset by people I politically do not agree with, and they have used the folklore association of the school for their own political means, and I've quitted it. Recently only I've heard of the success of our own guys in the association, but I'm already in another related association in the school, with the old one I've founded was closed by the school, I've seen it fit to join it with my own crew, dispersed them amongst the rest, and taken up my own path...I've dispersed the topic again...
My point is, here, one has to be a good talker, at first.
I only talk at political assemblies, where I usually present my views on matters of the week in an hour long seminar to a lot of people, girls among them.
However, this type of talking is not the type of talking you want to employ to get gals to love you, they'll be bored. I tried to do small talk, but the best I manage is to get the topic back to the things we're discussing here, and in the other forums I post in.
Meaning, it's very, very boring.
Sometimes I tell of my old tales back in Germany and of my highschool days, but after two hours, those tire out aswell, then I start telling old wives' tales, and continue with supernatural stuff if they still look interested. Then they ask me to read their fortune, which is why most girls come to me, and I know that they already have someone else in mind, and come to ask me what the coffee grinds/bones/cone will tell of their future with this person.
Then I make that feel when no gf face.
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