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Creator God Gets to Make the Rules
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RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules
(July 24, 2023 at 7:21 pm)Ten Wrote: If there is a Creator god, is he allowed, by virtue of being the creator and controller of everything, to do what he wants? Even if it is unjust? Even if it doesn't make sense to his creations?

Does he have the right to kill us, to manipulate us, to demand worship?

Like, I'm talking about "right" as in we aren't allowed to be upset, we have no authority to stand on to challenge him because he made us, he owns us. We have no justification for our rebellion because we were created for his purposes.

The meaning of “allow” in this case is very poorly defined.  ‘Allowed” by who?    What exactly does it mean when the allower allows?   Don’t do this or I’ll pout?    Don’t do this or I will make you will pay a steeper price than it’s worth?    Don’t do this because I will make it impossible for you to do this in the first place?   Don’t do this because it is impossible for you to do it even without my doing anything?  Does the allowing a matter of choice, it is a suggestion, or strong urging, or a matter of boundary between the possible and the impossible?    So the question is unanswerable.


If you chose to not accept it, but can’t do anything about it, is it “allowed”?
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Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by zwanzig - July 24, 2023 at 7:21 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by zwanzig - July 24, 2023 at 7:37 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Foxaèr - July 24, 2023 at 7:39 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by zwanzig - July 24, 2023 at 7:49 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Foxaèr - July 24, 2023 at 8:02 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by no one - July 24, 2023 at 9:52 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Angrboda - July 24, 2023 at 11:33 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by arewethereyet - July 24, 2023 at 10:16 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Foxaèr - July 24, 2023 at 11:05 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by no one - July 24, 2023 at 11:22 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Rev. Rye - July 25, 2023 at 3:33 am
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Nolin Lane - July 30, 2023 at 5:16 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Peebothuhlu - July 30, 2023 at 6:57 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Anomalocaris - July 30, 2023 at 8:58 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by zwanzig - August 2, 2023 at 8:06 am
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by zwanzig - August 2, 2023 at 8:11 am
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by Bucky Ball - August 2, 2023 at 12:21 pm
RE: Creator God Gets to Make the Rules - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 3:59 pm

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