(June 27, 2023 at 1:56 am)Authari Wrote:(June 26, 2023 at 4:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Fetus's have the right to live in a woman's womb, but NOT at the expense of the woman's rights.
No one has the right to order someone to act as a life support system for another person.
You anti-choice people don't want to give fetus's the same rights as a person already born, you want to give them special rights.
Let's say you wake up one day with a 4 year old person connected to your body for you to act as their life support system for 9 months. If you have them disconnected, it will absolutely end their life.
Should you be forced to continue to live with this other person using you for life support?
You're telling me that if I hook up to a 4 year old for 9 months it will save its life? Jesus Christ I'd have to be some kind of monster to say 'fuck you I don't want you connected to me go die you fucking little child you're a worthless piece of shit that should never been born' I don't have to be forced to do anything in this scenario because I'd voluntarily say 'hook me up' if it was to save some kid's life.
And no I don't want to give unborn infants any special rights, just the right to life which you and I enjoy, and I do not think that the mother's promiscuity should play a deciding factor in determining whether that unborn child ought to live or not, certainly I don't think that just because a woman spread her legs that that gives her the right to terminate the life of a sentient being capable of feeling love and fear, her own child none the less, and I am not even the father of the child in our hypothetical situation why should I a stranger care more for someone else's life than a bunch of self-proclaimed humanitarian atheists. Seems to me like you're not so humanitarian after all calling for innocent blood to be shed.
You missed the entire point of the hypothetical I created.
I wasn't saying it would not be morally good to continue to provide life support for the child. I asked if you should be forced to provide life support.
As others have said many times: consenting to having sex is not consent to getting pregnant, getting pregnant is not consent to providing life support for a fetus for 9 months.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
