(August 19, 2022 at 12:30 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:(August 19, 2022 at 12:08 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Why unwinnable? Are you in love with Putin or something?
Yes, Ukraine should give up and make a peace deal. The experts on this issue basically all say this is a lost cause. I don't know about you, but it's kind of sad seeing tens of thousands of people die like this in a lost cause. I don't know which experts you're listening to. And I don't need to love Putin to not buy into the propaganda like you have. The United States is my countries top ally and I'm glad that is the case, but I call it like I see it. The West and NATO, and Ukraine by keeping an open mind about NATO, made Russia feel like they were being pushed into a corner, so yes, our provocation toward Russia over the years is in large part to blame for the war in Ukraine. Even normies like the Pope are coming out and saying the obvious, but I know you and Helios will never acknowledge the obvious because things have to be black and white with you guys where it's "Russia bad" no matter what. Obviously I disavow how brutal and inhumane the Russian attack has been, but when you make a country feel threatened for long enough and keep pushing it, this is the result. And America is funding this proxy war, so yes, much of the blood continues to be on their hands for that reason.
Experts do not all say its a lost cause, far from it. Russia has already lost more equipment and men in Ukraine than they did in Afghanistan and they lost that war.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.