Religion's affect outside of religion

[Drich]

How about you stop talking about proof and actually show it, but I'm guessing you'll respond like "you are the living proof" or some ridiculous non-logical typical theist response like that, failing to actually answer any questions but continuing to act like we are the blind ones.

How about: The proof offered is not mine to Give. Because the Proof of God is God Himself. That 'proof' is only offered and controlled by God. Since God is not a magical genie or a grinder money (granting wishes or does tricks on demand) One must follow the instructions left by Him, if they want to see Him. After all, a common man would have no issue with the 'vetting process' we would have to go through to see someone like the President or even Pope. So why would we expect that the creator of Everything (the Pope's boss) would be at out beckon call to weave Himself in and out of the little mind games those who did not want to believe wanted to play?

My role is to simply show you the direction on how to obtain 'proof' if and when you ever would truly want to see the truth.

When you can't justify your life's beliefs with something that everyone can understand and accept as some form of evidence(whether or not they agree/disagree) you have failed to reconcile your faith with credibility.

That's not true. What has happened in the last few generations is to move the goal posts of 'evidence' beyond the scope of what God initially is willing to offer. Man/unbelievers want God to chase them, and their ever increasing demand for more and more 'proof.' When in fact God has already set a standard. God has provided enough 'evidence' for all of us to generate a mustard seed's worth of faith. We all have it. Whether or not we place it in science or we place it in God we all have to have the tiniest measure of faith to believe whatever it is we start out believing. The only difference being, If and when we plant that mustard seed's worth of faith in God's ground He will provide the growth/proof to establish and maintain an unshakable belief.

Laughing at people who make legitimate points and always coming back to the same conclusion that we cannot understand god because he's too great you fail miserably to realize that if humans cannot understand him, you fall under the same category and cannot claim to do so.

Me laughing was not at a general failure to understand God, but at the incompetence and ignorance some of those here want to charge people of belief in God with. ignoring their own failure to grasp basic 'science.' All the while (and as condescendingly as possible) want to scold and mock what they perceive as ignorance, yet ironically do not see their own ignorance or the paradigm of Ironic faith their ignorance in science has created. Meaning: If one does not fully grasp all the major components of evolution (fossilization being a pretty big component) then one is dependent on a tremendous amount of faith that the theory they are claiming to be the origins of everything is indeed correct.

This puts a person in the same realm as all of those who said the earth was flat. Or ironically (the funny part) the same realm who blindly believe. It's not an issue of right or wrong. It is an issue of simply believeing something because everyone else believes it. (God's follow don't HAVE TO Blindly Believe.) Because if you can not look at the sum total of various componets of a given theory and verify the majority of them then one is believing by FAITH that everyone else who supports said theory is indeed correct. Which again is what those who believed the world was flat were working off of, and those who blindly believe in God, Except Faith when it comes to belief in God is not a 'Bad thing.'

Common, unless you are one of those doom-auses who believes in science out of faith, and at the same time condemns Christians for presumably doing the same, You have to see the Humor there as well!

And after all of your excuses, question dodging, and nonsensical answers you will probably still reach the conclusion "God exists because I know it".

Actually I know God exists because He has made Good on His promises with me.

That's the result of denying logical reason and evidence I guess, because as Sam Harris said "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" Until you learn to accept logic, reason, and evidence, you will forever be stuck in an endless loop of justifying your beliefs with ridiculous claims that fail to contain any rationality and in turn, fail to answer any of the questions anyone will ask.

Now if you can, put all of the typical Christian/Atheist Rhetoric aside for a moment and carfully examine what I have written. At any point do I deny a need for Proof? Do I fail in basic logic and reason, Have I ignored any 'proof' that counters my claims? Now be honest with yourself and don't get caught like the last guy did (Arguing stereotypes/what he thought my responses should be, rather than what they were.)

In truth all I've done is point you in the direction of God for what you seek, because He is the only one to offer it. Me sharing my experiences is what I needed in the way of 'proof' to turn my life around. God has promised to provide all of us with what we need (Iron clad proof on an individual level.) so as not to destroy the lives of people who don't want to know God in this life.